Never date a single mother

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There are certain types of people that it is better for you not to date. I’m sure some where out there is a guy with a perfectly healthy relationship with a woman who regularly smokes crack, but all the same you should avoid dating drug addicts. Right now a woman is head over heals in love with a man out on parole for domestic violence. Most people can easily see why it’s not a good idea to get in a relationship with a drug addict or an ex-con, but there are many other types of people it’s ill advised to date. In this article I’d like to discuss one such type, the single mother.

Being a single mother is not a crime. I have nothing but respect for single mothers and have no doubts that a good percentage of single mothers are so because of lying asshole men. That said regardless of how admirable they may be or decent a person there are several reasons you should NEVER date a single woman. Some of these reasons are listed as followed:

  1. Welcome to second place
    When a woman has a child that child becomes the most important person in their life. I agree with this and think this is how it should be; a child is a great responsibility requiring unending patience, care, and attention. When dating a single mother it is then understandable that you come second in all dealings. Simply put you are less important. I’m not so egotistical as to want to be the center of a woman’s life, but I would like to be the main consideration.Think about it, you’ve had a long week at work and want to kick back. You call up a girl you’ve been seeing for sometime and there’s no one else you’d rather be with. “Would you like to go to dinner tonight?” “I can’t Timmy has a play.” “Maybe we could go down to the beach tomorrow.” “Timmy has soccer practice tomorrow.” “How about a movie Sunday?” “Well maybe, I guess we could see that new Disney movie about the singing gum drops. Then if we can tire out Timmy at Chucky Cheese we could put him to sleep early and have an hour or two to be adults before he wakes up.”
  2. Restricted Area
    Having a child restricts the movement of the parent, especially a single parent. Remember when you lived with your parents and you wanted to get a little more intimate with someone? With a child it’s ten times harder for the parent. If you do see a single mother you have to contend with either sneaking around after the child’s bedtime (and trying to keep quiet) or you see her during the few moments she can get someone else to watch her child.
  3. My baby’s Daddy
    Nature tells us that when you have a mother you usually have a father. Dating a single mother you should be aware of the role the father can play. Regardless of whether she tells you he’s a stubborn, insecure, deadbeat, abusive, asshole prick, he’s the baby’s father. Some place in her mind, how ever deep she (Most likely) entertains fantasies of them being a family. He is in a role that can never be taken away from him and this role often entitles him to come by any time he wants and in many cases they still have sex. “It’s just ___, he doesn’t even count.” And why should he, and why should she tell you anyway?”
  4. Equitable Paternity “Best interests of the child”
    Let’s say you have no issue with her having a child. Hell he’s a cool kid and you even kinda like hanging out with him. Maybe one day she finds herself in a bind and you pick him up from soccer practice. Maybe you buy him some cool new toy for his birthday; it’s only twenty bucks and look how much he loves it. Well in the eyes of the court you may have just adopted a father role, and if you split up with the mother she can legally come after you for child support. Even if you only knew her for a year and only met the kid for a few months the court is forced to serve the best interests of the child.Once again the child’s interests are more important than your own. There are dozens of legal cases in which kind hearted men are penalized for years for showing kindness to a person in need. In one case a woman and her son were soon to be evicted from their residence. A former boss and close friend let them move in with him. After nearly two years he told her she had to leave, she went to court and filed for “Equitable Paternity” and he still has 11 more years of payments to make for a child he never had with a woman he wanted to help until she “Got back on her feet.” Another case involved a man who regularly gave money to a woman he was dating to take care of child care needs. When they split up he was given the bill of those child care needs until the child is 18 years old even though he wasn’t the father and had sparse dealings with the child.

These are just a few of dozens of reasons you shouldn’t date a single mother. Simply put dating a single mother takes much more effort than dating any other woman and has a fraction of the return, not to mention the possibility of being forced to make financial payments for nearly two decades. Are there decent women out there who happen to have a child, yes. Are there decent women out there who happen to have been in prison for drug possession, yes. Would I ever consider dating either of them, no, but that’s my preference.

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31 Responses to Never date a single mother

Mike

May 25th, 2009 at 1:25 am

I have dated a single Mom. #3 happened to me. Never again!

Alex

June 2nd, 2009 at 8:30 am

this is so accurate. While I’ve never had to pay any type of support, everything else that you described has happened to me, which is why I stopped dating single women years ago. I think I was 26 when I finally wised up. I met an almost PERFECT female with a toddler. Whenever I wanted to go out, she almost never could go because of her son. I always ended up going over there, which was nice at first because she was HOT as hell, but looks only last for so long. Eventually, I ended things and learned to stop wasting my time with mommies.

deaddude

August 3rd, 2009 at 3:48 am

I have been totally alone for a few years and sometimes it really bites that I’m like the only dude in this town who isn’t getting any. But it’s a hell of a lot better than being mixed up with a chicks who has kids!!!

the game

August 4th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

Never have a relationship with a single mother baggage baggage drama can’t do this can’t do that don’t waste ur time and ur money wait to have a family of ur own leave the babysitting for when u have ur own kids.

Shireen

October 26th, 2009 at 1:29 pm

I disagree with everything wrote above – yes it might happen with a few single mothers, but not all. I was a single mother of 2 when I met my partner 12 months ago, I went on every date he invited me out to, as well as watching a DVD at mine every so often. He moved in 8 months ago and welll read what I do, I get up early take the kids to school whilst leaving my partner to have a lie in, come back make him breakfast in bed, whilst he is eating that I wash everyones clothes and iron them – including his, when he gets in the shower I wash his back for him, then we go out for a coffee, we come home and I make him x amount of teas and coffees through the day, make his lunch, and everyone’s dinner, run him a candle lit bath at night and do all the tidying up. I do that every day for him – as well as running my own business. I give my kids 100% attention and my partner gets the same. As for paying things for the kids, when he offers I tell him thats thoughtful of him but he doesnt have to, I never ask a penny from him. And on top of that all his sexual needs are met – more then what your average single woman would do!

Never again

November 14th, 2009 at 9:34 am

I agree with this except for the part that most single mothers are so because of lying asshole men. Most of them are that way because of their own irresponsible behavior. And it says a lot about the mother’s personality when the father of her child won’t marry her after getting her pregnant. And if the father is a lying asshole…well, great choice in men.

Mike

November 17th, 2009 at 1:16 pm

Shireen, you can disagree all you want, but the truth is the truth. I have dated 3 single mothers and in each case these #1 #2 and #3 happened.

I mean really, are you telling us that your man comes BEFORE your children? Really? I don’t believe that!

You’re just in denial because you’re a single Mom and can’t deal with reality. Sadly, this is the case with far too many women.

Abbie

November 22nd, 2009 at 1:50 pm

I’m a single mother — went through a divorce I didn’t want. What do you men suggest I do if I want a healthy relationship? It is a huge concern to me. I have to agree that most men are scared away when they find out I’m a single mother. It’s heartbreaking to me, because I want better, not just for myself, but my wonder son and daughter. I love them very much and want to raise them to be great people.

Do any of you have any suggestions?

Stacy

December 7th, 2009 at 7:09 am

How narrow minded you all are! I am a single mother. My time is not too restricted because my daughter is with her father every other weekend. My family is involved, I go to college, and am able to multi-task being a great mom and having a social life. I wouldn’t dream of EVER asking a guy I was dating for help! Whoever these chicks are that you’re dating would probably suck even if they weren’t mommies. To each their own, but I think it’s sad that their giving the rest of us a bad name. We are not all part of this category.

d boi

December 18th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

Sometimes it gets real hard you even start to feel resentment even jealousy towards a damn baby its not worth it all it does is destroy fragments of your patience and ego

Roy

January 14th, 2010 at 9:32 pm

I’ve dated five single mothers, and they all sucked. They were clearly hunting for a fool to get turned into an emasculated ATM.

The last one would scream and fight with me for hours. Anything, no matter how minro, would trigger her into rages. She was crazy. No matter what I did for her, no matter how patient and kind and generous I was, it was never enough.

Her 4 teenage kids were the spawn of hell, spoilt, rude whining little shits who trashed the house into a pig sty, and openly treated me with contempt.

She borrowed $30,000 from my father to invest in real estate, then spent it all dining out everyday and buying her brats lavish, expensive gifts. For Christmas, she bought them not one, but THREE trees, one of which was huge, and all-new decorations.

She continually treated me like crap, and then would say how much she loved me. Talk about mind games. During our relationship, she insisted that I marry her, buy her a ring worth at least $25,000, have a child with her, pay for her half of costs for her kids (while her ex paid the other half through child support), max out my credit card and loan it all to her. She also demanded that she be a co-signer on my bank account, but she wouldn’ reciprocate.

After 7 months of misery, verbal/emotional/mental abuse, and madness, I told her I couldn’t take any more and had to move out. She threatened to call the police and file false charges against me, have me thrown in jail, change the locks, and keep all my belongings. I told her it was over. Then she cried and begged me not to abandon her. I left anyway and am glad I did.

After I left her, she ended up filing bankruptcy for a third time in her life, lost her home to foreclosure, and never paid my father the money she owed him.

I would never, ever get involved with a single mother again as long as I live.

And regarding #4, if that was ever done to me, that arrogant black-robed dictator would disappear in a hole in the middle of Death Valley.

Amber

January 20th, 2010 at 2:34 am

I suppose all single mother should remain single and be alone the rest of their lives? just saying.

chelley

January 30th, 2010 at 5:00 am

Im a single mom of three. I dont have baby daddy drama. According to my parents I put my boyfriend b4 my kids. You men some of you should just pat urself on the back. Its articles like this the reason I cant find a decent guy out here. Sooner or later ur gunna say the same about your ex-girlfriend after you done had ur way with her.

What about writing an article about how only single men think of single moms as a sex goddess! HOW many times have i had men come up with that one?

James

January 30th, 2010 at 10:42 pm

I am mixed on this. I know single mothers who are very sweet ladies. Smart, pretty, caring, in a word motherly.; but also passionate and adventurous and eager. My father dated and ended up marrying two single mothers, neither of these relationships worked in the long run, but I don’t think that is due to them having previous kids, other issues are certainly to blame. But for him loving single mothers wasn’t a problem at all. He enjoyed children very much.

I don’t think that single mothers should just be lonely the rest of their lives. I don’t think they should turn into spinsters. But here is my problem, and this is a problem that maybe all men don’t have, but I do….

I dated a single mother once, for about 8 months. She had a son. Nice kid, very smart. One day the kid called me “daddy”. It froze my blood in my veins. I was out after that. I’m sorry, but there is something way deep down, nestled in my core were I can’t get at it to remove it even if I wanted to, and that is the instinctive repulsion to the idea of raising another man’s children. It is simple instinct, genetics, biology. We want to pass on our own material, and the Male Lion comes out when we meet a desirable mate that has a cub by another male, we want to destroy it. I don’t mean directly, I would never propose to harm a child, but I mean we want to destroy the idea of it. A very fundamental piece of me resents the kid for being there. And that is no way to live.

So I split with her. I was not going to raise another man’s child. I wasn’t going to live a life resenting a kid for something that wasn’t his fault. And I wasn’t going to live a life with wedge between me and this beautiful smart woman. It’s just not something I could handle.

Garry

February 2nd, 2010 at 2:43 pm

Women can sugar coat it all they want but at best you’ll be 2nd place. Now if the fathers still around and she has a career then count on 3rd or 4th. Number 3 is the definetly true. My ex was a single mom and she told me that “I’ll always hold a special place for him (the dad) in my heart because he gave me something so special”. He’s so special that he doesnt work, doesnt pay child support and lives on his brothers couch and has been for over a year. It’s certainly not worth the trouble ladies. Go back to the men who knocked you up because they’ve already planted their flag.

Garry

February 2nd, 2010 at 2:48 pm

Very true James about it being kind of a primal thing with guys. At least in my experience her comfort level with the dad was like having two roosters in the hen house!

Renne

February 11th, 2010 at 10:00 pm

I disagree….Yes, there are many women out there where I could totally see that happening to some men. However, there are single mothers out there who are actually sane and can balance their carrier, child(ren), and dating. I’m a single Mom….I fell in the category of the guy was an ass. However, in all fairness, we were 16 when I got pregnant and 17 when I had my daughter. He left me when I was 3mo. pregnant. He’s not in the picture. Has seen my daughter 2x in her entire life and she was 1mo old. She is now 9yrs old. I still have contact with her father (very minute, roughly 5-8x a yr). I have put myself through college, started a carrier, and have managed to date. I have always put both my, now, fiance and my daughter equally 1st. Yes there are times I need to go do things for her. However, I have always had ample time to got out with him. I take care of all the “household chores” and he does dinner. I NEVER asked him with my daughter (money wise or anything else). He would volunteer and I would graciously decline. I would never in a million years dream of screwing him over. I do not collect child support from her “biological” father. I was also the one to tell my fiance that I wanted a prenup. and to specify that if we were to get divorced that he would not be financially liable for my daughter. We have always had plenty of “alone time”. We go on vacations alone and do family vacations. I don’t feel it’s fair to lump “single mothers” into one large group. There are those of us “single mothers” out there who arent out to screw a guy over, be shady, or put someone in 2nd place. There are those of us “single mothers” who put the guy just as equal, go out of our way to make the guy feel more “comfortable” in the relationship with the child. Tables turned…I have a friend who is now a single father…mother of the child passed away….so is it going to be the same for him…women shouldnt date him ’cause hes a single father? Or will you say that “that would be ok”?

Alexander

March 9th, 2010 at 3:52 pm

What exactly are the laws and cases of ‘Equitable Paternity’? My girlfriend is a single mother and has been begging me to move in with her. I don’t think we are mature enough in our relationship to move in together, so I keep telling her ‘not yet’.

She also has studied law to become a paralegal and I’m wondering if she’s found out about what you are talking about in #4 and is thinking something along the lines of ‘if he moves in with me and I like it, that would be great… but if it doesn’t work out, at least I get a check out of him every month’. I can’t help but be skeptical she brings it up all the time.

Ash

March 31st, 2010 at 10:04 pm

I disagree with everyone I was a single mother for two years because I couldn’t find a real man that was mature enough to be around my little girl but then I met my now fiancée and he’s perfect my daughter loves him and he has completely claimed her as his own she is now daddys little girl infact now we have another little one of our own and one due in August but my point is I don’t believe that this blog should have anything to do with never date a single mother if your a mature family oriented guy that is anything besides just self centered and scared to put a precious innocent little child before yourself maybe you should just be single and not have kids of your own because a mother will always put a guy after her children yours or not and if you find one who doesn’t then you had a baby with the wrong person so really if your even looking at these and believe that its a big NO to dating single mothers why don’t you just remember that you can’t possibly be a mature man yet because it may take a man to raise his own children but it takes a real man to except a child into your life that isn’t biologically yours and get over ever thinking that any women in her right mind will ever put
her man before her children so guys maybe if your as smart as you think you’d realize that maybe a single mother is better then not atleast you know ahead of time weather she would make a good mother to your children…Correct?

Sarah

April 5th, 2010 at 9:25 am

I don’t think it’s fair to put single mothers in the same catagory as ‘drug addict’ or ‘ex con’. Being a single parent is not a crime, or a disease. I agree with #1 & #2 – And I’m a single mother of one. The kid should always come first. If not, the mother should be considered a ‘drug addict’ or ‘ex con’ because it is just wrong to put anything before your child. However, the kid is number one priority, but your partner is #1 in the romance department. If custody is shared and you have sitters lined up, its not that hard to find balance between your child and your partner. It is harder to be intimate when ever you want, the kid might lash out if they see you kissing someone other than daddy. Or the mother might be too tired after working and chasing her 3 year old around all day. Being a single mother, even I generally wouldn’t advise any of my friends to date a single parent. However, there are some single parents who seem to have it together a lot better than others. And I know some men who would do great dating a single mom. But its not easy, it would be a lot easier dating someone with out a kid. Though sometimes, the easiest things are not always the most rewarding – or the best for you.

Mano

April 18th, 2010 at 10:29 am

This is spot on…I have had many women with this status pass through my life in recent months. Most of the time they have no time to develop a relationship, look at you for your “meal ticket” potential, and put on a great front to hide the fact that they are ‘ok’. Security…that’s what they want, they are in love with the idea of you, but not in love with the real you.

Take this advice, stay away,,,,its one thing for them to be divorced, another to have a child. Too many women are “independent” with thier baggage, like the kid is some sort of fashion accessory or amazing feat….

The majority of these women only needed a sperm donor. You are expendable to them! Trust this dude’s advice.

Nate

April 22nd, 2010 at 1:38 pm

I absolutely agree with this post. However, it really depends on what kind of guy you are. For example, yes a single mom will A) work around her child’s schedule, B) have some form of parenting from other people or the father, C) be restricted by what she can do or where she can go, and D)have limited life not involving her child. This all could be a good thing because she has no time to play games, wants a serious relationship, and doesn’t party/drink much. However, my encounters with them is that women with kids are usually more picky and less tolerant (try figuring that one out), don’t have very interesting lifestyles, and are very independent and head strong.

So if you are a man that doesn’t need to do alot of interesting things to have fun; isn’t very assertive; and wants a more stable/predictable relationship over wild/unpredictable one then a single mom is good. If, like me, you live near New York City and want to different things, are head strong and hate planning your schedule around someone else, and don’t mind the unpredictability that comes with a woman that changes her plans then like the writer said, you should steer clear of any single mother on dating websites.

One other thing you will notice. You will spend 20% to 40% more time getting to know them online then with other types of women, except, the above average beauty queens. that’s my 2 cents

Byron

May 1st, 2010 at 8:35 pm

dated 2 single moms.. NEVER AGAIN! NEVER! The WORST years of my life. I got on well with the kids too. Then the women gets jealous of that.. and starts to use the kids against you. Thats ONE of the many problems.. gentlemen.. I BEG YOU.. Dont do it.. My hearts for the kids I had to leave becoz of the psycho/immature woman..I still remember all their BDays and think of them.. I miss them, but cant go near them coz of their mothers. If your single mom takes anti-depressants or goes to shrinks.. for any reason.. RUN even faster.

benny

May 2nd, 2010 at 6:59 pm

DO NOT GET INVOLVED WITH SINGLE , MARRIED,
OR DIVORCED MOTHERS!

Susan

May 5th, 2010 at 9:17 am

WOW reading too much into love buddy, get over yourself and your paycheck!!! If you are not the daddy then leave if you can’t handle the single mom, we are very self sufficient!

Did you ever think that she enjoys your company? Obviously you have bad communication otherwise you would not be writing these stupid questions.

Leave, you would be doing HER and her kids a huge favor.

MICHAEL

May 16th, 2010 at 8:38 am

I see everyone’s view and am currentlt involved with a
young single mom.Just giving tidbits of my life story and
the story of us,one,I know she is God’s gift to me ,no
matter who or what.Two,my feelings are unconditional
and undying for her,yes,I have gone fromlove to in love!
In short we are both people from a not so good part of
town,life and what we see and do,seen and done are
alot different then most.Yes we are people of color and
life,including,relationships,is/are different. Yes she is a
single mom by and because of typical unworthy and useless guys.And more than likely all that love was more
than likely,and usually,alot of LIKE AND LUST. Some
good news the first child’s father is out the picture,the
bad news AND drama why we really can not get together is the second child’s father is.She wisingly dumped him almost two years ago,after not only screwiing around ,but got the other chick pregnant.
SHE SAID ENOUGH! Cut him out,takes nothing from him,
struggles daily on her own with the kids,and has all this
over her head keeping her from at least a SHOT at the
good life.FOR HER,and maybe females like her,a man,not
GUY,like me is a CATCH. I have all my own everything,no
one or body is looking for me,I’ve been there,done that,
and maybe above all,NO DRAMA WITH WOMEN AND NO
KIDS!!!! It’s going on 1 1/2 years and we still have not
really hooked up. And i know why,and she has stated
why,IN A WAY!! She always always been rather half ass
on us really talking and dealing with this. Yet I have been patient,pretty giving and willing,but not overdoing things.ALL N ALL she still will not fully come to or jump
on a good thing.She hasn’t REALLY said it,but the ex has
some bs over her,or put some type of fear or doubt
in her.Mainly by holding the daughter over her headwith
I asuume a bunch of threats or drama. I praise her for
ALWAYS,putting her kids first. But it frustrates me her
not cashing in this WINNING LOTTERT TICKET,me!!!. I’m
no king with a king’s ransom,just know I’m a CATCH and
bring ALOT to the table.Especially for a neighborhood
girl who is a pretty,sweet,loyal,yet single struggling mom. It may not work for us either,but she will not jump
and give us a shot at least to find out.
Bottomline,and why do I at least deal.Simple for the first
part,if it is meant to be,it will. Yes,she needs to standup
wakeup,and at least smell the coffee.It IS,actually,her
loss.Unlike most ,especially single moms,they NEVER,
get their shot at Mr. Right. A REAL MAN who really puts them first,including the kids,or HER KIDS. Second I am 47,and she is 29.I am FAR FAR from lonely or pervy,what
I am is old school.experienced,been there,done that,see
the WHOLE picture not just a PART,and have finally developed much faith and patience. Last ,it is ALL God’s
Will and Plan,and HE ALSO allowed me to fall in love with
her,and want her and her kids to be safe,happy,and get
the best!!

Amy

June 14th, 2010 at 12:34 am

It doesn’t matter if she is a single mother or not. That was about how much you could love her. Grow up, have a big heart! How single mother can be categorized the same as drug addict or ex-con? That’s stupid. I married to a man with kids about 12 yrs ago and NEVER thought of none of that nonsense. I admire his responsible action and love for his children. Moreover, I do respect him as a good human being.

gary

June 21st, 2010 at 9:55 pm

all I can say is when you have some one that you love and cant get them uot of your mine .that is me .my partner for 34 years yes he is gone for good .Iam looking for a gay man and he is in his 30to40 and is will to be on my side till the end of time for me about 30 to 40 years or so .can say this on here . Iam in need of a gay man that has a and up to a 12ins and can keep in all night or he runs out of gas .Im hiv neg and Im going to stay that way.all the men that need me he is hiv neg to if not by by by .

max

June 25th, 2010 at 5:06 am

i am in a relationship with a single mother, her daughter is 10yrs old.My problem is how to communicate with her daughter. sometimes we argue that i don’t communicate with her daughter well. My partner expect me to be a father to her daughter . can somebody give me advice how to be a step dad.anyways i am also mix up with this issue because i think that not all single mothers don’t have time for their partner.My partner always makes time for me and i appreciate that a lot. She is a super Wife and a mother at the same time. On the contrary i think that a single mother will always have an issue about their past so still think about ” what if”. in my ending comment you have to just use your heart in a situation like this and your mind comes second. Love is blind they say and i always do that……..i love without thinking….. i love you so much bea…..

Alfred

July 8th, 2010 at 3:50 am

Time is short, all women have a selfish side. A single mom, having had her feelings and hopes betrayed by a men can not be expected to be loyal to you %100 percent. Besides, YOU WILL BE NUMBER 2 in the list forever!!!…. If a man’s most important attribute is his integrity, than being number 2 is NOT Acceptable, this is because if a man goes beyond out of his way to show a woman how much he loves her, a single mom will never acknowledge this because no matter what a guys does, he IS STILL NUMBER 2…..pretty sad but true…. and Yes, I agree that young single mom’s looks more for security, and WON’T love a man for who he his, but rather, what he can provide; which is also pretty sad but true….. Thank you.

Andy Bowman

July 28th, 2010 at 4:23 pm

I don’t have any kids and I’ve dated about 3 or 4 girls who were single moms and I was extremely lucky to escape every single of them. Otherwise, I would be suffering an extremely miserable existence being a dad to someone else’s children and, quite possibly, never having any of my own.

My children (if I have any, I’m still deciding) are going to be new and fresh from my own semen, not old and used from someone else’s.

And if any of you single moms have a problem with that, feel free to send me your lovely little hate mail cause I love reading it. :)

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